New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Hello :) I recently bought a new-in-box Nokia N900 off of eBay. It was the EU Finnish / Suomi version, but it was still qwerty so I didn't really care :)

To get to the question, the version of my N900's firmware is only PR1.1. I thought that after adding the Nokia SSU mirros that I'd get a prompt asking me whether I waned to do an OTA update, but I never receive a prompt. I have the latest global eMMC and firmware images. Should I just upgrade my N900 using those?

The contents of my /etc/apt/source.list.d/ are :

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Google "archive team maemo". There you will find N900 unlocked images from skeiron archives. There is a link. Choose pr 1.3 global. You need also the flasher to flash your phone. You can google flashing N900 and will find instructions. Then from the forum check cssu thread (community updates). I suggest choosing the cssu testing version. I suggest you add to your repositories this:
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/
fremantle-1.3
free non-free

Also in cssu instructions there are other repositories old what you need. There is no real support stuff here except the members. There are no updates for security so your phone will not be updated for security. Your browser wont open all the pages you probably want.

Check also instructions "Perfect setup for N900". For updated browser you need to install Easy Debian and for that have outdated
Debian image for N900 and then you can have netsurf 3.8 browser which is fast but I think it wont play videos or open all links.

And before you post questions and start new threads read everything from maemo wiki and you learn a lot how things work here. Have fun with your phone. There is an effort for an updated maemo version called leste but it is not ready yet.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

And for cssu open the cssu instructions page with your phones micro-b browser and click the link for installing cssu testing. It will start the update.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Thanks so much for the very informative reply! :D I've actually owned an N900 since when it was first released, but it's fallen into disrepair. My new N900 is really just a novelty and is a part of my pocket computer collection, so a fully functioning up-to-date Maemo OS that works perfectly in 2019 isn't really a priority for me :)

Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

If you would have told that I would not have probably helped you. :D Maybe I could still have time to delete my posts.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Heh -- I hope you're just being facetious :D I now have two N900s and I'm refurbishing my older one. I just thought that your comments "Also in cssu instructions there are other repositories old what you need. There is no real support stuff here except the members. There are no updates for security so your phone will not be updated for security. Your browser wont open all the pages you probably want. ... Check also instructions "Perfect setup for N900". For updated browser you need to install Easy Debian and for that have outdated Debian image for N900 and then you can have netsurf 3.8 browser which is fast but I think it wont play videos or open all links." meant that my using an N900 in 2019 would be some type of fools errand :p But, I still regularly use my 24+ year old HP48GX calculator :) Please don't delete your posts -- I've been out of the loop and I need the info :D ( Which I again thank you for :) )

Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Didn't we just deal with the exact same scenario not a few days ago with baptx?

Well...
If you have been out of the loop as you say...
Pr 1.1 being the last thing you used ...
Then you are pretty out of the loop...

You won't get updates from 1.1
As Maemish mentioned..
You need to reflash 1.3.1 and install cssu.

As well...
Maemish ...your instructions are grand.
don't delete them.
If anything...
If we get any more folks showing up asking the exact same question...
You need not write anything.
Just post the link to your post as answer...
It would save a lot of typing .

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

I use N900 as my main phone so it is not foolish to use it. Just wanted to make the situation clear we are at the moment.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Maemish!
That's a hell of a guy :D !

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Well, my U.S. N900 which I bought when they were first released has PR1.3 and CSSU ( perhaps thumb? ) along with Uboot or Bootmenu ( I can't remember which ). It also has a re partitioned file system with the swap file being on an SD card. Along with that, I have dozens of apps installed, including things like kernel power, a 3D X-ScreenSaver dynamic background etc. The problem is that its filesystem is possibly partially corrupted and I'm out of space and I need to re-partition again. Also, my old unit has a gummed up digitizer and dust and grime on it since I used it so much and the keyboard is gummed up. I bought supplies off of eBay and also from Stellatech to re-case it though.

Thanks for the info :)

I agree :)

Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Thank you very much for all the info :) I just mistook your explanation of the situation as meaning that it wouldn't be worth it or something.

Thanks and regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

@jdb2 I also bought a Nokia N900 in 2019 and asked the same question a week ago :D
It looks like we cannot have OTA updates with the mirrors but I did not get the technical reason behind it so I guess the OTA updates were done through another process with hardcoded Nokia server names and not using the customizable repositories from the Hildon Application Manager (nobody has confirmed it yet).
If you want to flash, you can find the download links in the thread I started: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=100762

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

I do have the PR 1.3.1 firmware image, which I think was the last to be released by Nokia ( found it after much googling ). The file is named "RX-51_2009SE_21.2011.38-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin". I did read that, strangely, some people found that the MD5 sum of the above file was the same as the PR 1.3 file. I also have the latest global eMMC firmware named "RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin". I guess I'll flash those and then install CSSU.


Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Thanks so much! :D

Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

@jdb2 if you think the PR 1.3.1 links you found are from a trusted source, then you can share them, maybe it will be useful for other people. The CSSU includes PR 1.3.1 so flashing PR 1.3 would work too.

The checksum of PR 1.3 and 1.3.1 should be different, otherwise it would mean it is PR 1.3.
The sha256sum of my PR 1.3 image RX-51_2009SE_20.2010.36-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin is and the sha256sum of my eMMC image RX-51_2009SE_10.2010.13-2.VANILLA_PR_EMMC_MR0_ARM.bin is I also found that the PR 1.3 is hosted on the domain name used for mirrors: http://maemo.muarf.org/tablets-dev/nokia_N900/ (but I don't know if the people who own the server are the same as maemo.org).

By the way, it looks like there is an error in the description of the PR 1.3 UK firmware, it is written "PR 1.3 version 10.2010.36-2" instead of "PR 1.3 version 20.2010.36-2".

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

I'll need to find the link -- assuming it still works. I have the file. I guess anyone can just PM me and I'll send it to them. :) Better would be some place to host the file, but I don't want to get in copyright trouble with Microsoft / Nokia, so, someone else will have to host it :)

Thanks for the info :)

Well, my image files are definitely different :

Thanks for the heads up :)

Regards,

jdb2

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

As far as updates are concerned.
For the n900 (and it is pretty much the same for the n8x0...as far as their own particular official repos go....)
Once you are running pr 1.3 and cssu...
you will get cssu updates as / when they occur.
you will get software updates from the maemo reg. , testing, and developmental repos...
Use of testing and developmental repos are to be done with full knowledge of the potential for any issues which may result...
(since as programs are uploaded to the repos they go through trials and spend time in devel, then testing, and then fianlly ...if all bugs are ironed out they make it to the reg repos....some never get finished ...so it goes..but even still...most are quite usable.)

NOTE:
AS the individuals who are working on select and specific projects manage to upload any changes ...you would then receive updates to said version of that specific program.

Additional note:
You both seem sharp enough for the tool shed...
So I will just reiterate what everyone should know..
Whatever scale of learning or additional learning curve you are undertaking ....
Hurry it up...fast.
You are now ...like everyone else here..
part of the conscripted and Shanghaied "Maemo Support Team" ...
And so considering you two are bright light bulbs in the pack..
Expectations are you will lose your baby teeth shortly and will be fixing, innovating and doing what every other Maemoian does here..

Work on finishing the great Maemo Jaeger we intend to send to stomp Apple, Google and M$ flat

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

in 2019 we have maemo-leste. if usb ports of my n900s worked, i'd install it.
i run it on the droid4 though.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

okay, i don't necessarily need usb to install maemo-leste, it is possible to install and configure uboot from fremantle and boot to the system on sdcard. actually thought of it right after writing the previous message, checked today.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

maemo-leste lacks quite basic functionality on N900 it seems: https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#Status

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

That Finnish version has that bad cursorkeything. But I have to say, you learn to use it quite fast. I even doen't notice anymore and I use N900 as main phone. But if you want only use Maemo with pocket computer, you should check N810, you can even find new from Amazon.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Haha
Great shout out for the n8x0s
:)

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Amazing you can find a "new" device that is over 10 years old! Box never opened or mint condition?

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Or is it the china remake version?

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

No. These are new old stock, but it seems that there is now only Wimax edition. Who bought that another one this week?

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Hello!
I haven't found a way to send private messages and do you have a Telegram account?
how to do install new browser in easy debian?
thanks!

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

You need to post enough on the forum before you can send private messages. For to install a NEW browser check the thread Easy Debbie and from the end about ten last pages of comments. There you will find discussion and links to instructions how to install Netsurf 3.9 on debbie. But that doesn't support java or videos and many things still missing. There are no new browsers for the debbie which is debian jessie based with old kernel. Iceweasel is slow but usable if you have time and need to use some page other browsers can't handle. But no new browsers on this side of the rainbow. On the otherside of the rainbow is maemo Leste with new browsers. And on this forum there is a thread how to install kali linux on chroot and have heard that with the shared image you would be able to have a more usable chromium but have not tried.

As some has said, this maemo 5 is riding with a dead horse in many ways.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Hey Guys

I recently purchased a used N900 (I still have my original old faithful that I will never part with and didn't want to mess about with...)

When I bought it, it was stuck in a boot loop, but thanks to the amazing references and support on these pages it is now fully functioning and running CSSU! I have overclocked and have a fully functioning IMAP email and the microb browser does what it needs to. I could hardly believe that the FORCA weather applet still works! I had to revive my N900 cos I dropped my Android phone and needed a phone till the replacement arrived but then decided to find one I could experiment with. Now I don't want the Android replacement! I love that my N900 doesn't pester me with endless notifications! Thanks so much for all of the contributions that have got me up and running and renewed my love for the most amazing device ever!! x

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

Sadly, carriers - at least here In DK - are letting go of 3G, even 2G is long gone. That will make an end to the N900 (and N9) phone functionality.
It won’t mean me letting go of my devices though.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

In the Netherlands it depends on the carrier. I am using the one from KPN and I am covered with 2G until the end of 2025.

It will end one day though. After that the N900 could still function as a VOIP phone (WIFI) and off course forever as a micro Linux PC.

Re: New Nokia N900 in 2019
 

I have a hard time imagining Finnish carriers letting go of 3G or even 2G.
I always imagine all the pensioners with their Nokia 3310's in some wooden house off the main road up into the forest, being completely stranded.