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JD2010 2011-02-14 20:15

N950 will succeed N900
 
Rich Green confirms that Nokia will ship a MeeGo device, succeeding to the N900. He speaks of the N950. Will be part of future.

according to this rumour


http://nsuffys.blogspot.com/2011/02/...-le-nokia.html

danielz000 2011-02-14 20:28

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Cor! I'll certainly buy one of them after the experience I've had with my N900

</sarcasm>

stlpaul 2011-02-14 20:34

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
If it's the same N950 talked about a year+ ago, then I don't want it if there's not a HW keyboard... :)

longcat 2011-02-14 20:39

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
will i have updates every tuesday?

akpoff 2011-02-14 20:39

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
After my experience with the N900 I probably will buy the MeeGo N950. I'd by an N900 v2 running the current version of Maemo (release 3 that is) if it offered two improvements over the original: 1) micro-usb port that won't break under normal, long-term use, and 2) a ghz or better processor.

To secure a definite purchase of the N950 from me add the features above to a 4" screen, keep the rock-solid construction, hw keyboard and ease of porting, developing and installing open source software.

That's all Nokia need to do to keep me coming back.

benny1967 2011-02-14 20:42

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I'd buy anything that runs Maemo/MeeGo. Just for the fun of it.
Even if it doesn't have a physical keyboard; yes, that would rule out any practical use of the device, but still it'd be nice having it.

xabier 2011-02-14 20:46

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I would also buy a cpu improved n900 successor, I don't care if the screen is resistive or capacitive. It can be fixed with a proper touchpen.

I would also like bigger capacity battery, motorola defy has 1500mah one as n97 does. Bigger battery and smaller chips and (possibly) amoled screen would give us impressing battery life.

tHMZ 2011-02-14 20:48

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibb (Post 946428)
Thanks for this but I need help to get AIM messenger on the N900

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OoyVNZxiIo

akpoff 2011-02-14 20:50

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xabier (Post 946441)
I would also buy a cpu improved n900 successor, I don't care if the screen is resistive or capacitive. It can be fixed with a proper touchpen.

I would also like bigger capacity battery, motorola defy has 1500mah one as n97. bigger battery and smaller chips and (possinly) amoled screen would give us impressing battery life.

Agreed on the larger battery.

I prefer the resistive screen. I still have an affinity for a stylus. I don't use it all the time but frequently enough that I'd miss it.

geneven 2011-02-14 20:52

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Even I, a Nokia nay-sayer, am tempted by this trial baloon. I am even happier if it doesn't have a physical keyboard, which was something I got very used to on my N800. Hmmm. I have just finished swearing off Nokia about a million times, but ... you can't trust me.

xabier 2011-02-14 20:53

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
http://www.labnol.org/gadgets/capaci...screens/13614/

benny1967 2011-02-14 20:57

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xabier (Post 946448)

:D

It's not the stylus I miss, though. I hate it when I touch the screen by accident (when I'm in the bus etc.) and each of these touches are registered as clicks. Annoying. The advantage of a resistive screen is that it's not enough to touch it by accident. You need to add some light pressure. That's the cool thing.

TiagoTiago 2011-02-14 20:59

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xabier (Post 946441)
I would also buy a cpu improved n900 successor, I don't care if the screen is resistive or capacitive. It can be fixed with a proper touchpen.

I would also like bigger capacity battery, motorola defy has 1500mah one as n97. bigger battery and smaller chips and (possinly) amoled screen would give us impressing battery life.

Resistives got better sensing resolution, and you can use it with your fingernails, any random object you happen to be holding, while wearing gloves etc, nothing in crapacitives make them a better choice than resistives.


I would only get a N950 or whatever it is called if it didn't loose in any aspect to the N900, gotta have hardware qwerty, gotta have high res touch input, gotta have a nice camera, gotta have lots of internal memory AND expansible external memory and so on.

mikec 2011-02-14 21:02

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
No Need to buy. Next Meego conference is in May.;)

xabier 2011-02-14 21:05

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 946453)
:D

It's not the stylus I miss, though. I hate it when I touch the screen by accident (when I'm in the bus etc.) and each of these touches are registered as clicks. Annoying. The advantage of a resistive screen is that it's not enough to touch it by accident. You need to add some light pressure. That's the cool thing.

Capacitive doesnt work unless you use your skin for it, so no accidental taps in your pocket.

I also prefer resistive screen for it's accuracy, but i think that if it's meego it may be neccesary to use multitouch for gestures.

IsaacDFP 2011-02-14 21:05

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Can't these people think...? what the h3ll are we supposed to do on xterm without a hw keyboard...

akpoff 2011-02-14 21:09

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 946454)
Resistives got better sensing resolution, and you can use it with your fingernails, any random object you happen to be holding, while wearing gloves etc, nothing in crapacitives make them a better choice than resistives..

My N900 interface objects in order of frequency of use: fingernail, stylus, ignition key. :D

geneven 2011-02-14 21:14

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP (Post 946463)
Can't these people think...? what the h3ll are we supposed to do on xterm without a hw keyboard...

Lots of us used the pop-up keyboard in xterm on the N800. It wasn't a problem at all.

uhbhatti88 2011-02-14 21:15

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Hmm... i'd feel more comfortable if nokia hadn't had the track record they've had with software...but...for what its worth:

the must-have improvements:
1. HD support (scaling, recording, hdmi-out)
2. Multitouch (nice for photos and games, the rest is meh)
3. Processing Power (newer cpu+gpu)

the cool extras:
Carl-Zeiss 8MP or better camera
32GB internal + Card slot
USB OTG by default (otherwise we have h-e-n anyway...)

And as any sensible user on this forum would agree: The HW keyboard stays. Or i dont. Period.

m4r0v3r 2011-02-14 21:30

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I'd be pretty damn happy if they just released the closed source stuff. Or continued with Maemo as an OS since Meego just doesn't seem that appealing. 1GHz processor, with 512mb ram and a decent GPU, one that has decent drivers I mean would work wonders on a operating system like this. Shame this phone isn't like a computer were you can customize the hardware...

JD2010 2011-02-14 21:43

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
The big probleme is when when when and rumors rumors rumors we need an official announcment

JD2010 2011-02-14 21:45

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
But at least
Intel Committed to MeeGo, Despite Nokia Defection

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2011...kiadefection_1

ffha 2011-02-14 21:46

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 946486)
1GHz processor

My N900's CPU is clocked to 1150MHz.
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 946486)
with 512mb ram

What for?
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 946486)
and a decent GPU

How about proper documentation on OpenGLES first?
The N900's GPU is fine. Only a few know how to use it effectively, though.


I'd love to see a v2 of the N900 with the following changes:
- Sleeker and thinner body.
- OLED screen.
- More efficient battery.
- Upgraded MicroB (YouTube support is terrible compared to an iPhone with similar specs).
I doubt it'll ever happen, though. You guys have read the various news items regarding Nokia and it's smartphones, right?

JD2010 2011-02-14 21:48

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ffha (Post 946508)
My N900's CPU is clocked to 1150MHz.

What for?

How about proper documentation on OpenGLES first?
The N900's GPU is fine. Only a few know how to use it effectively, though.


I'd love to see a v2 of the N900 with the following changes:
- Sleeker and thinner body.
- OLED screen.
- More efficient battery.
- Upgraded MicroB (YouTube support is terrible compared to an iPhone with similar specs).
I doubt it'll ever happen, though. You guys have read the various news items regarding Nokia and it's smartphones, right?

You can add, 12 mega cam and HD video

stlpaul 2011-02-14 21:52

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ffha (Post 946508)
What for?

To avoid constant swapping and horrible interactive performance of N900, probably. :)

I think MeeGo minimum requirements are 512MB RAM anyway.

kingoddball 2011-02-14 21:56

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Why play silly games?
1GHZ and 512MB?
What a waste of money!

A9 @ 1GHZ Dual Core with 1GB ram. Not unlikely and highly desirable!

stlpaul 2011-02-14 22:05

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Increased RAM is more important than increased CPU (comparing to N900), in my opinion.

tzsm98 2011-02-14 22:31

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IsaacDFP (Post 946463)
Can't these people think...? what the h3ll are we supposed to do on xterm without a hw keyboard...

I use the virtual keyboard in xterm from time to time. This is especially true if I see a fair amount of capital letters in the first coulmn of the hw kb in my future.

vi_ 2011-02-14 22:38

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 946520)
Why play silly games?
1GHZ and 512MB?
What a waste of money!

A9 @ 1GHZ Dual Core with 1GB ram. Not unlikely and highly desirable!

are you mad? why stop there? why not a 4ghz p4, twin nvidia 6600 and a terabyte hdd.

this is a pocket computer which strains battery life as is. you really think you need twin 1ghz processors just so you can do banal **** like update you online tweetspace memeosphere?

TiagoTiago 2011-02-14 23:12

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xabier (Post 946462)
Capacitive doesnt work unless you use your skin for it, so no accidental taps in your pocket.

I also prefer resistive screen for it's accuracy, but i think that if it's meego it may be neccesary to use multitouch for gestures.

Resistive multitouch is possible, and much better than crapacitive.

TiagoTiago 2011-02-14 23:16

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Somthing that would be awesome was if it was multicore (with at least two ARMs) but also hybrid platform, with one or more x86 cores to run binnaries that haven't been ported yet.

jpfsn 2011-02-14 23:23

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by akpoff (Post 946434)
After my experience with the N900 I probably will buy the MeeGo N950. I'd by an N900 v2 running the current version of Maemo (release 3 that is) if it offered two improvements over the original: 1) micro-usb port that won't break under normal, long-term use, and 2) a ghz or better processor.

To secure a definite purchase of the N950 from me add the features above to a 4" screen, keep the rock-solid construction, hw keyboard and ease of porting, developing and installing open source software.

That's all Nokia need to do to keep me coming back.

I'm one of them very weird guys who isn't a developer or linux follower. But the N900 was one of my best loved mobile devices. It stays at home nowadays, the reason.....thickness! Any N950/N9.00 or similar will have to be half the thickness for any commercial success.

jpfsn 2011-02-14 23:26

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 946591)
Resistive multitouch is possible, and much better than crapacitive.

They each have their advantages.

lolloo 2011-02-14 23:38

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Wow! Gimme gimme!! Now!

Dr. Drips 2011-02-14 23:45

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
haha some make silly concepts http://www.concept-phones.com/nokia/...l-design-n900/

strange1712 2011-02-15 00:01

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I think dual core CPU would improve pretty much responsiveness and multitasking, even if freq is the same. RAM is important, but Maybe some of the most important would be Increased NAND (/) space...

Faustino 2011-02-15 00:19

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I would be very surprised if any successor to the N900 ever saw the light of day.

However.. it would have been nice if they could have added Java support in a simple update. I know there's emulators and so on.. it's just not the same though. Maybe a new phone could solve this..

There were a few apps i had on my old E71 that i quite miss sometimes.

theonelaw 2011-02-15 00:52

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 946557)
are you mad? why stop there? why not a 4ghz p4, twin nvidia 6600 and a terabyte hdd.

this is a pocket computer which strains battery life as is. you really think you need twin 1ghz processors just so you can do banal **** like update you online tweetspace memeosphere?

A hypothetical n950 might be nice if it happened,
but Nokia has just flushed the final dregs of credibility down the drain.
They could say or announce or even demonstrate anything they
can dream up and cobble together, but it would remain uncredible.
Who can trust Nokia ever again after the betrayals they
have repeatedly performed against their most ardent fans?

Anyways -
i am actually building my first replacement prototype for
my orphaned n900s now.

a bit rough,
but I am starting with a mini-itx board.
specs:

core i5-650
8gb 1600 ram
Corsair Force 240gb
12vdc power supply
Huawei telephony (usb)
still not sure about the screen yet - but prefer resistive.
will run Mandriva with Debian (and other guests) in VM.

and no -
I really do have a need and immediate use for such a beast
my occupation is weird and it gets weirder every year.
(data acquisition with 64bit processing)

Others can keep their candy-@ss candroids
their apple prisoncells and their m$ virus-fests,
I will have open-source, mobile and on steroids thank you.

flipdeep 2011-02-15 01:32

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
I would buy any Nokia with Maemo inside. I am using 770 and N810 with love everyday.
pls just more MHz out of the box (without OC) and bigger LCD.
Thats all

shady 2011-02-16 00:16

Re: N950 will succeed N900
 
i would LOVE to build my own device, somehow i would like for it to be like building a PC, the problem is that the enclosure and size of the device could be prohibitive, still if i could make the components or at least source them accordingly, i would make this for us; the forgotten:

QWERTY: Dust/Grease Resistant Keys
SEAL DEVICE exactly like high end DSLR's
TI OMAP44xx / Intel Medfield (Pewell)
PowerVR SGX554MP4
2xTHGBM2T0DBFBAIF (Toshiba 128GB NAND, 256GB Total Internal)
2GB RAM (not shared & DDR3)
HDMI-TypeD (able to stream audio, up to and including DSD)
microUSB 3.0
MicroSHXC UHS-1
1xCDCE949 TI Programmable Clock Synthesizer
TLV320DAC3100 32bit DAC (high end isolated audio circuit, LOW noise filter, 4 outputs 1 per amp)
4xOPA637SM or comparable (4ch bal. dependent on output (spdif) configuration (L(+/-) R(+/-)))
Combination LINE/SPDIF out (NOT a headphone out)
NATIVE Codec Support: AVI, WMV, ASF, MP4, MKV, MPG, DAT, TS, TP, TRP, 3GP, DivX, Xvid, H.264, WMV, 7/8/9, MPEG 1, MP3, WMA, OGG, PCM and FLAC
NO POST CONVERSION
WiFi-B.G.N
4.0" CBD OLED 1268*720@24bit screen ~2ms
10.1MPx Back Illuminated (720p@120fps: able to be displayed natively on the device)
2100mAh Battery
GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 850/900/1700/1900/2100
HSPA+ 42Mbps
Compass/Magnetometer, 6xGyro, Accelerometer, GPS/AGPS, FM Transmitter
Simultaneous bit-stream across ALL digital outputs, user configurable.
MeeGo.Harm 1.1 or MeeGo 1.2

and yes, there are a BUNCH of things missing, but this is just a wish list.


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