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foolish91 2011-10-17 13:57

N900 Alternatives?
 
Had my N900 for just over a year and its on its last legs now.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone to replace it. What comes close to the N900 in terms of hardware / software capabilities?

Here are the things that the N900 does that I'd like to see in another phone:

Hardware:
- Full qwerty Keyboard
- Camera
- 3.5 mm Headphone socket
- Long Battery Life
* Stylus

Software / OS:
- Fast Internet Browser
- Full calendar / task support and sync
- MMS support
- Email
- Social Media Intergration
- Custom Homescreens
* SNES Emulator...

* Preferred but not totally important...

Bramji 2011-10-17 14:23

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
I was wondering the same.
there are only a few devices with hardware qwerty keyboard.
I prefer the nokia E7-00. Nokia will sent the phone to me because they cant fix my n900. HTC and sony ericson have also some phones with hardware keyboard with android which are great!
If you can get it, you will love the nokia N950 but it is only for developers...

michaelxy 2011-10-17 15:16

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Quote:

N900 Alternatives
No - i guess in 2 -3 years. I hope an a phone with real Windows 7 or 8 on it.

nicholes 2011-10-17 15:46

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i am also waiting for something like this. i want to add a few more things like....

open ssh
apps customization at lest like n900(theme costomizer, transaction control, led change color etc.)
also i have hacked my menu(for example, when you open clock from the menu my media app would open:) )
etc.

foolish91 2011-10-18 10:34

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Yeah I had a look around on phone finder but couldn't really find anything perfect.
Also yeah, theme customization would be nice.

Basically there is no real alternative but what comes closest?

gregoranderson 2011-10-18 11:00

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foolish91 (Post 1109981)
I'm thinking of getting a new phone to replace it. What comes close to the N900 in terms of hardware / software capabilities?

Another N900?

slaapliedje 2011-10-18 11:45

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gregoranderson (Post 1110352)
Another N900?

That's exactly what I was thinking. My only complaint really after all this time about the N900 is the screen. I would love to get one with the gorilla glass. Or a screen protector that doesn't suck. Mine unfortunately has a few nasty scratches on it.

I love the N900. Wish there were another phone out there that was close. I want another Maemo phone or even a MeeGo phone. Lousy Elop....

slaapliedje

gregoranderson 2011-10-18 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slaapliedje (Post 1110367)
That's exactly what I was thinking. My only complaint really after all this time about the N900 is the screen. I would love to get one with the gorilla glass. Or a screen protector that doesn't suck. Mine unfortunately has a few nasty scratches on it.

I love the N900. Wish there were another phone out there that was close. I want another Maemo phone or even a MeeGo phone. Lousy Elop....

slaapliedje

I'm in a similar frame of mind. It's cheap enough to get a replacement screen for the N900 (although fiddly to fit). What I'd really really like is a N900 tablet (akin to what Smoku was hoping to produce with Cordia). Had an interesting play with my Android tablet running VNC connecting to the N900 vncserver and I'm 100% confident that it is terrific form factor to run on. Infact the ideal scenario for me is a double-din touchscreen device in the car that with the N900 / maemo interface.

Ach. One can dream. Just a shame all those companies producing cheaper tablets are not confirming to GPL ; otherwise we'd be drowing in kit to port to.

HELLASISGREECE 2011-10-18 12:04

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Motorola Milestone 1/2/3

(droids)

immi.shk 2011-10-18 12:28

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
the best answer is another N900 bt if you still want an option then..

HERE YOU GO... Fujitsu-F-07C
http://media.bestofmicro.com/,C-N-301127-3.jpg

Hardware:
- Full qwerty Keyboard
- Camera
- 3.5 mm Headphone socket

Software / OS:
its full "Windows 7 Home Premium":)

It's the world's smallest PC that fits into the palm of your hand, and it runs Windows 7. Not Windows Phone 7, but the actual 32-bit Windows 7 Home Premium (with SP1)
with a 4-inch SVGA touchscreen (1024 x 600), a 5.1MP camera, a 1.2 GHz Intel Atom Z600 CPU, 1 GB of LPDDR400 memory, a 32 GB SSD and IEEE802.11b/g/n connectivity with speeds up to 65 Mbps. There's also a USB port for connecting a keyboard or mouse, and an HDMI output jack for connecting to an HDTV. There's even a slide-out QWERTY keyboard for typing on-the-go
.

P.s. - i guess since its x86 it can handle any Os supported by a regular Pc including Fedora,debian & Ubuntu :)

joelus 2011-10-18 12:38

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Any opinions on the Sony Ericsson Xperia pro. It has a qwerty keyboard and runs Android but haven't heard many opinions about it.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/prod...specifications

ChoMar 2011-10-18 14:53

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
A good Linux Port for the Fujitsu-F-07C would be great

Quote:

i guess since its x86 it can handle any Os supported by a regular Pc including Fedora,debian & Ubuntu
i wouldnt be sure. The HW is probably closed source. Like, the Mainboard, WiFi and GSM Chipset etcetc.
So, it may be able to somehow boot a Linux, but it may not be actually a working System.
But i would love to see Ubuntu Remix or something like that on this device.

Aonsaithya 2011-10-18 17:25

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
The F-07C looks good alright, but do keep in mind that it apparently has some hideous sort of Fujitsu-Symbian on it. If it were Belle, it would be just fine for mobile phone mode, but that doesn't look like it...I wonder if it would be possible to install some other OS for the phone mode?

WP7 and W7 on the same device would also be kind of funny way.

nowhereman 2011-10-18 18:34

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Buy a N9 ...

I had a N900, and I was always thinking on buying another mobile with keyboard, but after try N9 I can tell you that it is not necessary.

(I had also an N950 and I don't use the keyboard!)

ChoMar 2011-10-19 06:58

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Quote:

but do keep in mind that it apparently has some hideous sort of Fujitsu-Symbian on it
I thought Windows 7?

Quote:

but after try N9 I can tell you that it is not necessary.
I tried many devices. Even on highend Tablets im missing the HW KB of my N900. SW KB takes display space and, even worse, if the device is under high load the feedback usually is way to slow for normal typing, so you never know if you have hit the right button. This drives me insane in under 100 Milliseconds.

Aonsaithya 2011-10-19 10:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChoMar (Post 1110741)
I thought Windows 7?

According to Fujitsu it has two operating systems; Win7 for the computer mode and some sort of Symbian for phone mode.

maluka 2011-10-19 11:00

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Hardware:
- Full qwerty Keyboard
- Camera
- 3.5 mm Headphone socket
- Long Battery Life
* Stylus

Samsung Galaxy Note

http://www.mobile2u.com.pk/BlogFiles...alaxy-note.png

patlak 2011-10-19 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maluka (Post 1110819)
Hardware:
- Full qwerty Keyboard
- Camera
- 3.5 mm Headphone socket
- Long Battery Life
* Stylus

Samsung Galaxy Note

http://www.mobile2u.com.pk/BlogFiles...alaxy-note.png

Welcome back, baggy pants!!!

JD2010 2011-10-19 12:00

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Me I left my N900 it broke the $/%/$? usb port and no warranty. My replacement was a Samsung Galaxy S2 but. I have it since 2 months and I some of the feature of the N900 I really miss are the following:

This community
keyboard
FM transmiter
infrared port
better multitasking


Stuff that is better
screen
faster

Samsung is supposed to have Samsung Galaxy Glide that will have a keyboard, this will be before the end of December so I will change mine for this one. I think this will not be the N900 but a replacement as there is no replacement, Nokia wanted that way so we have to live without it and change company...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/25/r...-the-holidays/

Rob1n 2011-10-19 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JD2010 (Post 1110842)
Samsung is supposed to have Samsung Galaxy Glide that will have a keyboard, this will be before the end of December so I will change mine for this one.

That one does look interesting. I'll have to keep a look out for reviews on that.

bingomion 2011-10-19 12:37

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by immi.shk (Post 1110385)
the best answer is another N900 bt if you still want an option then..

HERE YOU GO... Fujitsu-F-07C
http://media.bestofmicro.com/,C-N-301127-3.jpg

Hardware:
- Full qwerty Keyboard
- Camera
- 3.5 mm Headphone socket

Software / OS:
its full "Windows 7 Home Premium":)

It's the world's smallest PC that fits into the palm of your hand, and it runs Windows 7. Not Windows Phone 7, but the actual 32-bit Windows 7 Home Premium (with SP1)
with a 4-inch SVGA touchscreen (1024 x 600), a 5.1MP camera, a 1.2 GHz Intel Atom Z600 CPU, 1 GB of LPDDR400 memory, a 32 GB SSD and IEEE802.11b/g/n connectivity with speeds up to 65 Mbps. There's also a USB port for connecting a keyboard or mouse, and an HDMI output jack for connecting to an HDTV. There's even a slide-out QWERTY keyboard for typing on-the-go
.

P.s. - i guess since its x86 it can handle any Os supported by a regular Pc including Fedora,debian & Ubuntu :)

It doesn't have GPS!!!!!

digital909 2011-10-19 12:40

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
The glide looks like the best option out there, but the N900 is something else. It's irreplaceable.

salemsnake 2011-10-19 21:50

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Haha Fujitsu? it does look interesting but did you look at battery specs? it says 2 hours on windows 7 so that's like 1 or 1 and a half :)

codecxbox 2011-10-19 23:19

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
But does it run Crysis?

OK, seriously, I also have a HTC Desire Z or G2 and its a very good phone with a very good CPU and GPU. HTC camera will never touch the N900 quality, but it records 720 movies very well. Its keyboard is better than the N900. With a Gorilla glass screen and a thin profile, I would throw this baby against any Iphone and win. I even installed a Debian image, and it worked.

The Bluetooth module has a working FM receiver and according to the BT chip specs, its capable of FM transmitting. It has the same WIFI module as the N900, so packet injection could be possiblle too.

My G2 is rooted, superromed with the latest 3.5 Sense, and battery life is a lot longer than N900.

BUT>>> its Android....not that i dont like Android, its just that maemo is maemo, and i love tinkering,lol

Please port Maemo to this phone....

foolish91 2011-11-08 11:31

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
I was looking at getting the HTC Desire Z but looks like nobody does a contract for them anymore... I think the Next-Gen of that is the HTC Merge and no networks do a contract for that either!

I went into the phone shops and they say there is a gap in the market: qwerty keyboard androids...
So I reckon I will have to make do with my broken N900 untill they announce a new qwerty HTC or something.
The plus side is a new one will have Ice Cream Sandwich on it hopefully. Who knows how long we will have to wait though...

PAFaieta 2011-11-08 15:40

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i think you'd be hard pressed to find something like the n900... i tried the xperia x12 for a while, but because i'm old fashioned, the virtual keyboard needed to get off my lawn. other than that, for people needing screen protectors pdair is where i got my protector and case.. both have been holding up great, and my screen is in excellent condition. i've been cursing iPhone for years, but unless there's something else the dark side might get me.

foolish91 2011-11-14 13:33

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Decided to go with HTC Sensation since it seems to be confirmed to have Ice Cream Sandwich. It doesn't have a keyboard but the screen is quite big so I hope that will help with the touch typing.
It's meant to be a pretty fast too. Good idea?

JD2010 2011-11-28 20:59

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SO the Samsung Galaxy Glide with keyboard is now out.

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/m...il&tab=feature


I tPersonnally think it is the best replacement for the N900 as The N9 no keyboard no 1080p etc. After 4 months with galaxy S2 I can say there is no community like this one but I think Nokia is going to loose many customer by not upgrading wath people want. The N900 was my best phone ever but the evolution is going to be something else than windows phone...

Pro
Keyboard
1080p
8mp photo



Con
Only 1ghz speed
super amoled not plus

JohnLF 2011-11-28 21:54

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
More cons: Only android 2.3 and only 8Gb of internal storage - although this is expandable to 32Gb.
I would only be interested if it was getting ICS.

sulu 2011-11-28 22:02

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gregoranderson (Post 1110369)
Ach. One can dream. Just a shame all those companies producing cheaper tablets are not confirming to GPL ; otherwise we'd be drowing in kit to port to.

True!
I just ordered two replacement N900. If they turn out to be as durable as my two Siemens S45i I won't need another phone for the next 15 years.
By then we'll either see the first truly open LCARS phone or we'll all be assimilated into the shiny app market hive mind where all individual distinctiveness will be irrelevant.
...and my eyes will be too bad to read a 3.5" screen anyway.

stefanmohl 2011-11-28 23:01

Re: N900 Alternatives?
 
So has anyone started porting some Maemo/Meego-variation to Android-phones? Not just a chroot, but actually usable as main OS for the phone? Then I could run Android-apps in a chroot on top of that, but still have Maemo as my main phone-OS :-)


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