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mikecomputing 2016-10-01 12:07

SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
https://twitter.com/Nokius/status/781946189252071425

r0kk3rz 2016-10-01 19:55

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Since this is the closest to the first post I can get I will update this with the current Situation:

Well working Sailfish OS is available for both LTE and WIFI versions,

Install Instructions:
Sailfish OS for Xperia Z3 Tablet (LTE)
Sailfish OS for Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (Wifi)

With a notable exception of the Cameras, everything else works.

BluesLee 2016-10-02 00:46

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1515957)
Not a great deal works just yet, but both flavours (LTE, Wifi) of the tablet have got builds.

Sailfish looks nice on the screen though, and the tablet ui is cool too.

If https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris is up to date you should push out those builds if stable.

One can work around sensors especially on a tablet using powermenu 2. Gps and camera has less priority on a tablet for me, bluetooth would be a nice to have in the future.

r0kk3rz 2016-10-02 07:57

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1515968)
If https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris is up to date you should push out those builds if stable.

One can work around sensors especially on a tablet using powermenu 2. Gps and camera has less priority on a tablet for me, bluetooth would be a nice to have in the future.

I need to do a new build as Nokius and Mal fixed a rather major issue yesterday around the /tmp directory not being created properly and causing quite a lot of issues.

I agree sensors and cameras are of lesser importance on a wifi tablet, but there are things that don't have rows on the HADK table that are currently broken.

I do miss the screen orientation sensor though.

bomo 2017-01-17 14:44

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Is there a thread or wiki where I can follow the current progress of this port and find builds? I couldn't find a corresponding link in the wiki https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

r0kk3rz 2017-01-17 16:09

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bomo (Post 1522130)
Is there a thread or wiki where I can follow the current progress of this port and find builds? I couldn't find a corresponding link in the wiki https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris

I don't think there is anything other than the table row for tracking the progress as of yet.

builds can be found here: https://nokius.net/SFOS/
I will have to get Nokius to re-add the scorpion_windy build I have

explit 2017-02-27 00:21

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Just installet the latest image from Nokius. Looks promissing. Will try to use it like daily Nerd-Device

r0kk3rz 2017-09-11 10:27

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
After a busy weekend porting I've built a new port for the Z3 Tablet based upon the AOSP 6.0.1 hybris branch released by Jolla last week as part of the Xperia X stuff.

The situation is already looking much better than before, with working Wifi, sensors (yaay dynamic orientation!), media playback, and cameras (working as well as AOSP, which is badly).

It's still a bit rough around the edges and things may not work consistently yet, some videos might not play and some play with no sound.

There's a few issues I want to sort out before releasing it to the public, like the lock screen doesn't work properly and it regularly hangs during the boot process for some reason but once Jolla releases 2.1.1.X I'll release an update image for the Wifi version.

The 3.10 linux kernel means we might be able to run anbox too which would be nice.

Hopefully either Nokius or nh1402 will build a image for the LTE version, the fixes should be mostly the same.

r0kk3rz 2017-10-07 14:40

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Just a status update, thanks to the work that Jolla has been doing on the Xperia X we now have working bluetooth on the Sony Z3 Tablet as well. I've tested file transfer with a Jolla C, as well as headset and remote control profiles, thats all the bluetooth devices I have.

I also fixed the lockscreen, and so the only major outstanding bug is the fact that sometimes it takes 6-7 attempts before it succesfully boots.

I've got an image for SailfishOS 2.1.2.3, so hopefully Jolla can make this one a full release sometime this week

Pim 2017-10-07 15:28

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Fantastic to hear this. SailfishOS looked great on the Jolla tablet, even better than on phones IMHO. The only problem was apps failing due to memory issues. Better hardware like this Z3 should fix that.

I hope Jolla starts offering commercial support for SailfishOS on this device, like on the Xperia X phone.

r0kk3rz 2017-10-07 17:29

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pim (Post 1536038)
Fantastic to hear this. SailfishOS looked great on the Jolla tablet, even better than on phones IMHO. The only problem was apps failing due to memory issues. Better hardware like this Z3 should fix that.

I hope Jolla starts offering commercial support for SailfishOS on this device, like on the Xperia X phone.

Certainly Sailfish OS looks great on this device, and being an armv7 device you dont have that problem where all the apps need recompiling into x86 to run, you've just got the usual display scaling issues.

I don't think we will see commercial support from Jolla on this though, the base AOSP is not good enough and the hardware is a number of years old now and probably not that easy to buy anymore. In fact its been a few years since Sony has released a tablet at all so maybe they have a new one in the works.

BluesLee 2017-11-22 06:56

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1536031)
Just a status update, thanks to the work that Jolla has been doing on the Xperia X we now have working bluetooth on the Sony Z3 Tablet as well. I've tested file transfer with a Jolla C, as well as headset and remote control profiles, thats all the bluetooth devices I have.

I also fixed the lockscreen, and so the only major outstanding bug is the fact that sometimes it takes 6-7 attempts before it succesfully boots.

I've got an image for SailfishOS 2.1.2.3, so hopefully Jolla can make this one a full release sometime this week

2.1.3.7 is the latest official release. Any updates or intentions for a public release? Thank you.

aegis 2017-11-22 18:29

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1536044)
I don't think we will see commercial support from Jolla on this though, the base AOSP is not good enough and the hardware is a number of years old now and probably not that easy to buy anymore. In fact its been a few years since Sony has released a tablet at all so maybe they have a new one in the works.

Sony seem to have given up with tablets as for that matter have most of the manufacturers making higher end Android tablets. My z3c tablet is still in use almost daily and when I've occasionally looked for a better 7/8" tablet, I've not found a one. There's only the iPad Mini that has advanced significantly since 2014 and despite being a Mac user, I find iOS too simplistic and confusing.

It would be nice to see a Sony XZ1 Compact tablet. Then I might be tempted to mess about with Sailfish (again) on my Z3c.

r0kk3rz 2017-12-01 08:47

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
I havent really been working on it for a little while, but I build a 2.1.3.7 image last night and haven't yet managed to get it to boot.

Now i get the fun of figuring out if i need to do something or it's just the same bug thats been annoying me for a while now where it takes 10+ attempts to get it to boot...

BluesLee 2017-12-03 16:24

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1539003)
I havent really been working on it for a little while, but I build a 2.1.3.7 image last night and haven't yet managed to get it to boot.

Now i get the fun of figuring out if i need to do something or it's just the same bug thats been annoying me for a while now where it takes 10+ attempts to get it to boot...

Sounds weird, nothing relevant in the boot logs, what do the porters say about this issue?

Is it working well with older builds, maybe we need at least one more sailor to test and reproduce the issue?

r0kk3rz 2017-12-26 10:23

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Ok I've made some headway into the boot failure problem and I'm uploading a 2.1.3.7 image for scorpion_windy which i'll edit this post with once its done.

This image may take a few attempts before it boots fully, but I've altered the init script with a LED light sequence so we can tell what its doing.

The sequence is:
Power on -> Orange LED -> Aqua LED -> Purple LED -> Off -> White LED

This should happen in reasonably quick succession and so if it hangs at the Orange or Aqua stages for more than 10 seconds then it is most likely stuck and needs to be turned off by holding VOL UP + POWER until it shuts off.

I haven't seen it get stuck at the Purple or White stages, so if you see those it should finish booting ok.

To Flash the Image first we need to put on AOSP6 by unpacking the tarball and using fastboot as follows:

fastboot –S 256M flash boot boot.img
fastboot –S 256M flash system system.img
fastboot –S 256M flash userdata userdata.img

and then you can flash the SailfishOS .zip as per usual through TWRP.

EDIT:

Downloads Here

BluesLee 2017-12-28 10:06

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
I think this thread deserves more attention from our community.

Besides the boot issue the scorpion windy is the best choice for running Sailfishos on a tablet as the Jolla tablet is very rare.

Everything seems to work well here. With this build we have working sensors, bluetooth, video playback in browser etc.

Many thanks r0kk3rz.

cvp 2017-12-28 10:23

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Thank you for your great work.

@BluesLee
Yes, I agree! I already liked the first version. The battery life was great! Unfortunately, I sold my Cellular version, but think again to buy one :) Only I would like to have one with Celluar feature.

I have two questions about this:

1) Can the owners of a Cellular version also flash the IMAGE?
2) is the kernel adapted for Anbox? :)

r0kk3rz 2017-12-29 08:52

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1539695)
Thank you for your great work.

@BluesLee
Yes, I agree! I already liked the first version. The battery life was great! Unfortunately, I sold my Cellular version, but think again to buy one :) Only I would like to have one with Celluar feature.

I have two questions about this:

1) Can the owners of a Cellular version also flash the IMAGE?
2) is the kernel adapted for Anbox? :)

1) I don't think so, but it should be easy to build a cellular version that works just as well
2) Anbox is a possibility, I need to check what it needs on the kernel side

Pim 2017-12-29 13:58

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
How does the Z3 Compact tablet compare to the Jolla tablet w.r.t. memory? I have Jolla tablet and love it, but it struggles with more than a few apps open and some Web pages are too complex for the browser.

cvp 2017-12-29 16:11

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1539714)
1) I don't think so, but it should be easy to build a cellular version that works just as well
2) Anbox is a possibility, I need to check what it needs on the kernel side

It's easy for someone like you :) I would not be able to do that :(
Many would look forward to Anbox compatibility :)

thanks for your work

BluesLee 2017-12-29 16:14

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pim (Post 1539723)
How does the Z3 Compact tablet compare to the Jolla tablet w.r.t. memory? I have Jolla tablet and love it, but it struggles with more than a few apps open and some Web pages are too complex for the browser.

We had similar discussions in the past regarding the Jolla phone and compared them with ports like the one on the Nexus 5, search for OOM + Sailfishos. More RAM means lesser issues, here you have +1GB. You can check if using swap space solves your issues.

BluesLee 2017-12-29 16:18

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1539728)
It's easy for someone like you :) I would not be able to do that :(
Many would look forward to Anbox compatibility :)

thanks for your work

r0kk3rz started his work on the basis of the cellular version which was provided by Nokius. Maybe you can ask Nokius for a new build on IRC #sailfishos-porters with a hint to merge anything new from the scorpion windy image.

r0kk3rz 2018-01-02 09:14

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Yeah I will talk to Nokius about it, there might be a way for us to use the same build which would make things easier to support.

BluesLee 2018-03-25 09:02

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Unfortunately i tried an OTA update from 2.1.3.7 to 2.1.4.14. It looked to work in the beginning but the device does not boot - besides the ugly boot issue we have.

@r0kk3rz: Did something wrong and OTA is supported? Can you provide a new 2.1.4.14 image?

p.s. ssh is possible, will try to downgrade if it makes sense at all.

r0kk3rz 2018-03-25 09:50

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
I set it up for OTA but I didn't actually try it myself yet, but I do have 2.1.4.14 running from a fresh build just fine.

On the boot issue, I havent fixed it yet but I jave narrowed it down to some kind of cpu power state issue, and realised that it would mostly boot ok from being plugged into the power into act-dead mode. So I turned off act-dead and it just boots normally

BluesLee 2018-03-25 09:57

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Can you share informations how to deactivate act-dead mode and share your new build? IRC conversation would be fine whenever you are available, until then i will try to rescue via a ssh.

r0kk3rz 2018-03-25 23:49

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 1542693)
Can you share informations how to deactivate act-dead mode and share your new build? IRC conversation would be fine whenever you are available, until then i will try to rescue via a ssh.

Did you add my OBS repo before attempting an OTA? If you can ssh in then it maybe isnt too broken and is just missing some packages.

https://build.merproject.org/project...scorpion_windy

The act-dead mode stuff is a boot option, so I'll just include it in the next image I think

BluesLee 2018-03-26 06:54

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1542718)
Did you add my OBS repo before attempting an OTA? If you can ssh in then it maybe isnt too broken and is just missing some packages.

https://build.merproject.org/project...scorpion_windy

The act-dead mode stuff is a boot option, so I'll just include it in the next image I think

Great, now we know that OTA works well :-) Looking forward for your new build.

People dont seem to realize that this is our best tablet port and alternative to the rare Jolla tablet. Thanks again.

cvp 2018-03-26 08:54

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
.... no cellular version :(

r0kk3rz 2018-03-26 09:15

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1542729)
.... no cellular version :(

I made sure I brazenly displayed my tablet with sfos in front of Nokius at FOSDEM to tempt him to pick up the cellular version again :D

cvp 2018-03-29 08:58

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1542730)
I made sure I brazenly displayed my tablet with sfos in front of Nokius at FOSDEM to tempt him to pick up the cellular version again :D

Guess I'll switch to the WiFi Only version.

Did you progress with Anbox?

r0kk3rz 2018-03-29 23:27

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvp (Post 1542776)
Guess I'll switch to the WiFi Only version.

Did you progress with Anbox?

I could probably bake an LTE version image if I had someone to test the image out, but maybe without the modem working

I'm on holiday at the moment, but I believe that Mal just released an early Anbox version you can install which I will be keen to check out once I get back

cvp 2018-04-08 17:17

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1542796)
I could probably bake an LTE version image if I had someone to test the image out, but maybe without the modem working

I'm on holiday at the moment, but I believe that Mal just released an early Anbox version you can install which I will be keen to check out once I get back

Sure!! i will get my tablet in 2-3 days. I can test your Image :)

r0kk3rz 2018-04-09 05:21

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Nokius has his tablet back so its probably easier for me to work with him, bit otherwise i'll see what i can come up with

cvp 2018-04-12 16:37

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1543139)
Nokius has his tablet back so its probably easier for me to work with him, bit otherwise i'll see what i can come up with

Okay... I hope you find the time.
Have my tablet finally ... now he is waiting in the drawer :(

r0kk3rz 2018-04-19 09:15

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Thanks to cvp for testing this out, apparently it boots and works about as well as the scorpion_windy version.

Install instructions are the same but the LED pattern has been simplified a bit and you can boot it fully from plugging into a charger.

If it hangs on the Aqua LED stage for more than 10 seconds it has stalled and needs resetting.


Install instructions

AOSP Base

Sailfish Image for Scorpion LTE

cvp 2018-04-19 16:50

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Thanks for the first Alpha :)

Here are my test results

Work:
BT
WIFI
GPS (CSD fail, but google maps @ Browser works)
SSH
Light sensor (Backlight dimm)
Youtube @Browser
Video Play (mp4)
Music (mp3)
Jolla Store
Rotation sensor
Sound
Headset
Back camera (no sharp points yes, bad quality ^^ )
File Transfer via USB cable (MTP)

Not Working:
Modem (2G/3G/4G) - Phone - Message
Compass
Proximity sensor
Gyro & Accelerometer (rotation work)
Camera Video Record (green video)
Frontkamera (in CSD ok, but camera app will close, not possible to change back to back camera - need reinstall)

Not tested:
FM Radio (no App installed)

I can not say anything about the battery darin.

persmule 2018-04-28 05:06

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Hi all.
I just installed the sfos build on a scorpion_windy device, But I have noticed that it hangs when booting with a MicroSD card inserted (The LED will die out after going white), and boots successfully without one.

pichlo 2018-04-28 06:53

Re: SailfishOS on Sony Z3 Compact Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by persmule (Post 1543776)
Hi all.
I just installed the sfos build on a scorpion_windy device, But I have noticed that it hangs when booting with a MicroSD card inserted (The LED will die out after going white), and boots successfully without one.

Substitute 'MicroSD' for 'TOHOLED' and I have exactly the same problem with my standard, official, Jolla's own JP-1301 :D


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