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frank.wagner 2009-01-08 14:37

Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Hi,

i don't understand - no announcement - no product - no Nokia N900

Where is the problem - by Nokia ????

Peter@Maemo Marketing 2009-01-08 14:43

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frank.wagner (Post 255422)
Hi,

i don't understand - no announcement - no product - no Nokia N900

Where is the problem - by Nokia ????

Hi Frank,

we published recently the pre-alpha SDK of Maemo 5. As the software matures, we will publish alpha and beta SDK. Preliminary estimate for beta SDK we communicated in Maemo Summit is from March to May 2009. To expect a product shipment before we have a beta SDK might be somehow unrealistic except if we would work like other players in the industry that make the SDK only open source once the lead device is shipping.

Johnx 2009-01-08 14:52

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle

Read closely, look at dates mentioned for software releases, extrapolate what that means for the hardware it will run on.

frank.wagner 2009-01-08 14:58

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
but why not publish Nokia a product (HW) roadmap for 2009 ???

Google and his HW partners sets Android with a high pace :)

Peter@Maemo Marketing 2009-01-08 15:02

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Let's remember that Maemo 5 is a big step forward in the development of Maemo software. We skipped the "E" release by jumping from "D"iablo to "F"remantle. The pre-alpha SDK shows that we are working on many fronts to built a high-end mobile computer with Maemo 5. Without wanting to speculate, if we would have had an E release, then we might have seen a device shipping last XMas. We chose to accelerate the evolution of Maemo and skip one development step to get immediately to the next level. This work is not immediately visible, but the pre-alpha SDK shows that we are quite busy. Obviously, this approach takes some time but needs less time than it would have taken to move from D to E and then to F.

tso 2009-01-08 15:05

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnx (Post 255427)
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle

Read closely, look at dates mentioned for software releases, extrapolate what that means for the hardware it will run on.

in other words the N8x0 will be hovering in developer limbo for upto a year ;)

EIPI 2009-01-08 15:11

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 255430)
Let's remember that Maemo 5 is a big step forward in the development of Maemo software. We skipped the "E" release by jumping from "D"iablo to "F"remantle. The pre-alpha SDK shows that we are working on many fronts to built a high-end mobile computer with Maemo 5. Without wanting to speculate, if we would have had an E release, then we might have seen a device shipping last XMas. We chose to accelerate the evolution of Maemo and skip one development step to get immediately to the next level. This work is not immediately visible, but the pre-alpha SDK shows that we are quite busy. Obviously, this approach takes some time but needs less time than it would have taken to move from D to E and then to F.

On the software side, this was a good move. On the hardware side, it seems now, that stepping over the WiMAX edition entirely to concentrate on the hardware platform for the Maemo 5 device could have brought it to market sooner as well.

frank.wagner 2009-01-08 15:12

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
The keyword is - Time to markets :)

Reasons - Price erosion - Competitors (Google, Apple, Microsoft & Nvidia, RIM, Acer) occupy the front seats

http://www.desinformado.com/wp-conte...sinformado.jpg

Quote:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/techno...5071UD20090108
Nokia stops production of only WiMax device
Thu Jan 8, 2009 8:53am GMT

HELSINKI (Reuters) - The world's top mobile phone maker Nokia said on Thursday it had ended production of its only mobile device using the U.S.-centered WiMax technology, another blow for the struggling wireless technology.

WiMax has been competing for the status of next generation mobile technology, but has largely lost the battle to Long-Term Evolution (LTE).

"We have ramped down the N810 WiMax Edition tablet. It has reached the end of its lifecycle," said a Nokia spokesman. Nokia unveiled the model only nine months ago, while usually even the most trendy models have a shelf life of well over a year.

Canada's Nortel Networks Corp has said LTE will be the most likely upgrade path for about 80 percent of the world's existing mobile phone providers, with others going for WiMax.

Nokia did not rule out introducing further WiMax phones in the future.

"We will continue to follow the technology and its evolution," the spokesman said.

(Reporting by Tarmo Virki; Editing by Jon Loades-Carter)

Bundyo 2009-01-08 16:07

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
I'm not convinced that they occupy anything on this front just yet. Though you can see them getting ready - for instance the new MID Android development branch.

frank.wagner 2009-01-08 16:45

Re: Where is Nokia - no announcement no product - still in hibernation
 
LinuxWorld Summit - New York - 2005 - Presentation Nokia N770

And what has happened up to now - Developers - in search of perfection - everything at once - instead - to set priorities - and one after the other (see Google beta versions)

from sales and customer perspective - sorry, i can't understand this approach

in the competition only speed and innovation is the right answer


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