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So many have done stuff in the dark, few are brave enough to face the customers. Plan it and Bring it or say nothing at all! Yeah, this hw can do that, this sw can do that 
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2015-05-28
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Does this has a conection with the "Mobile OS for Russia"?, as you might know that YotaPhone is a Russian company
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2015-05-28
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Originally Posted by HtheB
Almost certainly. Though if a YotaFone with Sailfish ever is released, I hope it's made available within the EU.
Does this has a conection with the "Mobile OS for Russia"?, as you might know that YotaPhone is a Russian company
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2015-05-28
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well, at least yotaphone have touchscreen eink display.
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2015-05-28
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Pretty sure yota-fish was one of the: give us a phone and we can show you sailfish running on it the next day demos (hence not ready for market, probably similar to nexus ports with a few components missing, probably even the eink screen), yota ran it's course by now, so doubt they will finish polishing it up, but yota2 running SFOS 2.0 seems very very likely at this point (anyone knows how much of yota phone is actually manufactured in russia? or is it all chinese components just packaged into a 'russian' phone?)
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2015-05-28
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Again, differing statements from Jolla and the Russians. Jolla have never claimed once that SF2.0 will mark the point where SF becomes more open ... I suspect that is completely made up and it won't come soon.
Interesting to note that Jolla, the Russians, and the SA partner speak of the "vibrant, independent mobile ecosystem" (which doesn't exist), yet state that the competitive advantage they have over other alt.OS players (presumably Mozilla & Ubuntu, and maybe Tizen) is their implementation of Android app compatibility.
So their selling point over Android / iOS / WM is independence and security (but they're now beholden to the Russian government). Why people are supposedly choosing them is the ecosystem which doesn't exist, and their competitive advantage is Android compatibility (which is arguably better in Tizen and will come to the other platforms), which renders the previous two points moot. These things all seem to be rather contradictory. Their marketing team still don't have their ducks in a row.
Whilst I assume YotaPhone's staff won't be keen to divert too many resources to Sailfish in the near term, I'm sure they'll be obliged to work on it given that Yota's part-owned by the state, and by oligarchs very close to Putin and the Kremlin generally. So perhaps we will see it as an option slightly sooner than one might expect ... but given the challenges of SF hardware adaption and the specialised nature of the hardware, I somehow doubt we'll see a fully functional port for a while.
Interesting to note that Jolla, the Russians, and the SA partner speak of the "vibrant, independent mobile ecosystem" (which doesn't exist), yet state that the competitive advantage they have over other alt.OS players (presumably Mozilla & Ubuntu, and maybe Tizen) is their implementation of Android app compatibility.
So their selling point over Android / iOS / WM is independence and security (but they're now beholden to the Russian government). Why people are supposedly choosing them is the ecosystem which doesn't exist, and their competitive advantage is Android compatibility (which is arguably better in Tizen and will come to the other platforms), which renders the previous two points moot. These things all seem to be rather contradictory. Their marketing team still don't have their ducks in a row.
Whilst I assume YotaPhone's staff won't be keen to divert too many resources to Sailfish in the near term, I'm sure they'll be obliged to work on it given that Yota's part-owned by the state, and by oligarchs very close to Putin and the Kremlin generally. So perhaps we will see it as an option slightly sooner than one might expect ... but given the challenges of SF hardware adaption and the specialised nature of the hardware, I somehow doubt we'll see a fully functional port for a while.
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2015-05-28
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Originally Posted by bluefoot
Check the techcrunch article, they have a roadmap to open source all they can possibly do (the brics thread), not released yet, but thank Putin for it I guess, no security through obscurity, the evil puts good into people, lol
Again, differing statements from Jolla and the Russians. Jolla have never claimed once that SF2.0 will be any more open ... I suspect that is completely made up and it won't come soon.
Interesting to note that Jolla, the Russians, and the SA partner note the "vibrant, independent mobile ecosystem" (which doesn't exist), yet state that the competitive advantage they have over other alt.OS players (presumably Mozilla & Ubuntu, and maybe Tizen) is their implementation of Android app compatibility.
So their selling point over Android / iOS / WM is independence and security (but they're now beholden to the Russian government). Why people are supposedly choosing them is the ecosystem which doesn't exist, and their competitive advantage is Android compatibility (which is arguably better in Tizen and will come to the other platforms), which renders the previous two points moot. These things all seem to be rather contradictory. Their marketing team still don't have their ducks in a row.
Whilst I assume YotaPhone's staff won't be keen to divert too many resources to Sailfish in the near term, I'm sure they'll be obliged to work on it given that Yota's part-owned by the state, and by oligarchs very close to Putin and the Kremlin generally. So perhaps we will see it as an option slightly sooner than one might expect ... but given the challenges of SF hardware adaption and the specialised nature of the hardware, I somehow doubt we'll see a fully functional port for a while.
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2015-05-28
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Originally Posted by szopin
That's my point. The Russian minister claimed that it would be "completely open" in June-July, when SF2.0 is released. I can only assume this is total ********, given what Jolla said (there is a roadmap for opening stuff etc etc we will disclose later but some stuff will remain closed). Presumably made up on the spot to make it sound more compelling.
Check the techcrunch article, they have a roadmap to open source all they can possibly do (the brics thread), not released yet, but thank Putin for it I guess, no security through obscurity, the evil puts good into people, lol
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