Originally Posted by etuoyo

- there is no way to edit contact info

there is the possibility of corrupted memory;

there is no skype video calling;

RSS seem to have issues;

the music player is not very intuitive.

I also suspect the music through headphones will not be loud enough for me.

I have heard that the device is completely open and this community can do amazing things with the device and feel in blanks Nokia has left. However, I am not a developer. What if no one can correct any of the issues or no one cares about things that are important to me such as custom ringtones? What if this is as buggy as the N97?

Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com

I think that the guy might want to consider that the N900 has 800x480 screen which - compared to iPhone's 320x480 - is TWO AND A HALF TIMES MORE pixels to process at ANY time. The same hardware (CPU/GPU) gets 2.5 times higher load than on the iPhone. And for such a considerably increased load, I'd say that the result is more than satisfactory, and surely a subject to some further optimizations. This device has been on the market for just DAYS, for God's sake!

Secondly, maybe he should remind himself that the iPhone does NOT support Flash in the browser. It just SKIPS Flash content, which is often quite heavy. And the N900 browser has to deal with it. This also has some influence on less smooth scrolling.

So there are at least two factors that objectively affect performance. When rendering a web page, the N900 simply has A LOT MORE to do than the iPhone.

If that hardly (if at all - for "normal" users) noticeable scrolling jerkiness is the price to pay for 2.5 times higher resolution display and full Flash support in the browser then I am happy to pay the price as the "issues" that annoy him so much actually do not exist for me.

Regarding his complaints about the product not delivering quality and functionality he'd expect, maybe he could answer the following simple questions:

- does Bluetooth (the most crippled in the industry) on the iPhone deliver functionality one might expect from something that's advertised as the 'most powerful mobile platform'?

- does iPhone's 3 Megapixel camera without Flash deliver any usable functionality and quality AT NIGHT? Or is the iPhone supposed to be used in daylight only?

- has he already forgotten that it took Apple *TWO YEARS* and two device generations to implement on the iPhone as basic things as MMS, voice dialing, video recording, copy & paste, allow any GPS navigation to be released for it, etc. If he was patient enough to wait two years for Apple to do it, maybe he should give Nokia at least a couple of months and see what the upcoming firmware updates will bring?

It always puzzles me how iPhone users excuse it for having to wait two years for MMS or video recording, don't mind not having Flash support in the browser or even the simplest LED flashlight for the camera after 2.5 years and three generations of the device, and so on, while they're always the first to complain and throw mud at other devices for as silly and unimportant things as some miliseconds long scrolling unsmoothness I am not even able to see.

Maybe iPhone users should remind themselves how the first iPhone worked, what was it delivering and how long it took to add the most simple things to it. I'm sure we'll see most of the current issues fixed and missing features added in months, and not years like in case of the iPhone whose owners still wait for fully functional Bluetooth or Adobe Flash support, and got things like video recording or copy & paste only in mid-2009, five years after the rest of the world.

Shortly speaking: if you're able to wait YEARS for Apple to fix and add things to the iPhone, kindly consider waiting at least a couple of months for Nokia to fix and add things on Maemo, which only DEBUTED on the smartphone market.

Just my $0.001.

Best regards,
Michal Jerz
My-Symbian.com
My-Maemo.com (in a week or so)

Originally Posted by Raubtier

funny...

there is a thread dedicated for new owners and their experiences and you choose to create your own whine-thread..

i guess it just means that you are desperately looking for attention..

Originally Posted by daperl

I'm sorry you're not enjoying your experience as much as you hoped, but you have a premier device in your hand. You probably don't want to hear this but I'm gonna spew anyway.

These Maemo devices wouldn't exist if Nokia went it alone. And partnering with the upper tier of FOSS has been the Maemo creed from the beginning. It's a great thing, but it's a rocky path to the blissful green pastures. Everything's relative, so for a geek like me I'm already on the doorstep of the promise land. The pluses are so big that I'll even put up with a worthless hardware keyboard hangin' off of my device.

I know you're expecting something closer to perfection, but you're in the middle of a process, and Nokia has been embarrassingly upfront about it. But here is a high level question that makes my decisions easy: Where is everyone going? Take your pick: Google, Apple, Sony... They're control freaks. All of them. And they partner with control freaks. If their products are excellent and people want them, who am I to say anything. But where can they go? Only towards more control. I say let them fight it out; they're still going to have to adhere to standards and such, so let them try and cram their visions down my throat. And even though I like and use some of their products, I have my own dreams and visions; we all do, and Nokia has given us a great playground such that I have done things in the last two years that were just fantasy for me before the n800. But these devices have been proven to be much more than just playthings.

Anyway, again, it's a bummer about your new toy, Nokia seems to have a gun to their head and I'm not here to make excuses for them. And trust me, I'm not in good favor with their presence here, but Maemo and all that that implies is still the best thing going as far I'm concerned. So as I see it, you have three choices:

- Hang in there, learn about all the Maemo offerings, and watch things evolve and improve. Maybe even participate.
- Return the device; get something else or not. All the while monitoring this board for the progress you're looking for.
- or, return the device and find the gadget and community that suits you better.

Regardless, don't think this community takes things standing down; I think you already know that from this thread, but I'm talking about from Nokia also. We are all trying to push high standards, but knowing how to do that in this environment is challenging. I'm still learning.

And as far as how I spend my development time, I never know how that's gonna go till I wake up in the morning. Welcome to the wild frontier of maemo.org!

Originally Posted by f pickels

I in part agree, But you must also remember 2 years ago the Apple/ iPhone mobile os and UI was a million miles ahead of what any one else was thinking let alone trying to implement. And while I find the N900 and Maemo5 compelling. Nokia is playing catch up. and when they get to see the mistakes made before them and repeat the same mistakes, ie MMS etc. And see what millions and millions of people want. Like apps. Ovi store is a pitty. The market place and masses have spoken. And Nokia up untill now has failed to react. Example, Nokia's market share going south in a hurry. Give people what they want, and what they expect, and they will return.

Originally Posted by My-Symbian.com

But "random reboots" is not on that list.

I must be very lucky then.

The N900 isn't perfect, and so isn't the iPhone. Nothing is.

Originally Posted by gerbick

Search. There's a few posts/threads about it.

Whomever has said that?

I mean, for one moment, point to me where anybody with an ounce of credibility has ever said that the iPhone is perfect?

I mean, this level of fanaticism on these boards - or any board for that matter, I despise fanboys with a passion because they're largely unrealistic and not honestly able to see facts stated

Nobody has ever said the iPhone is perfect.

I refuse to go from buggy (iPhone) back to buggy (N900).

And thanks for selectively quoting me.

Originally Posted by Megacrazy

EVERY SMARTPHONE OUT THERE IS A MOBILE COMPUTER.