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2016-07-28
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Originally Posted by pichlo
I have *reams and reams* of mobile chargers, and I don't want another one, because they're all basically identical (sure, exceptions are exceptions).
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A charger is not optional. It is the most essential piece of equipment you can possibly imagine. Selling a battery powered device without a charger is not even like selling a car without a spare tire, it is like selling a car without the driver's seat. Sure there are companies that sell better driver seats than those that came with the car. That does not mean a car should be sold without one.
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If people replaced their car every two years on average, and the car seat easily detached from the car and could fit in any old cubby-hole, I wouldn't want a car seat "free" with my car either.
"Free" means included in the price already. If you pay for them separately, you pay for them only when you need them.
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2016-07-29
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@ UK
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#153
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Originally Posted by MikeHG
I don't. I need more chargers than devices for the reasons already mentioned. The only way I could obtain the surplus was by buying extra chargers.
I have *reams and reams* of mobile chargers
Originally Posted by MikeHG
In other words, the problem is not that the charger was included with every device you boy.
If people replaced their car every two years on average *snip*
The problem is that
a) you buy devices too frequently;
b) when you get a new one, you get rid of the old one in such a way that you keep the charger.
Mosen is right, people's habits need to change.
If you have too many, why don't you donate the surplus to a charity, for example? Not all charities accept electrical goods because then need to be safety tested which costs them money but some do. I purchased the extra chargers I mentioned above from one such charity shop.
Originally Posted by MikeHG
Correct in theory. In practice, as we saw with the Jolla tablet, the price is set and excluding components is a cost saving exercise.
"Free" means included in the price already. If you pay for them separately, you pay for them only when you need them.
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Русский военный корабль, иди нахуй!
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2016-07-29
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#154
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Another AquaFish intex twitter promotion from this morning!
They even got the Sailfish right this time
They even got the Sailfish right this time
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Performance comparison Video Sailfish 2.0 vs 1.1.9 vs 1.1.7
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Watch our weird watchfaces for mighty AsteroidOS
Performance comparison Video Sailfish 2.0 vs 1.1.9 vs 1.1.7
[MC eV] Maemo Community eV membership application please concider to join!
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2016-07-29
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@ Germany
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#155
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Originally Posted by mariusmssj
Yes, bought it a few minutes ago, i'll keep you updated.
Anyone in EU bought theirs from indian ebay???
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2016-07-29
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#156
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Originally Posted by pichlo
I didn't say I buy a new device every two years, did I? I implied people do on average (I don't know the exact figure, admittedly).
In other words, the problem is not that the charger was included with every device you boy.
The problem is that
a) you buy devices too frequently;
b) when you get a new one, you get rid of the old one in such a way that you keep the charger.
I have chargers from a variety of sources, including ones I've inherited from various friends / associates. People throw them away without thinking about them, because they come with practically every phone (or other USB charged device) under the sun...
Originally Posted by pichlo
I generally use my devices to destruction, and if I have a surplus of phones / chargers / headphones I'll give them away. Charity shops normally won't take them any more, but it's normally not too hard to find someone who wants one of them - homeless charities, for example.
Mosen is right, people's habits need to change.
If you have too many, why don't you donate the surplus to a charity, for example? Not all charities accept electrical goods because then need to be safety tested which costs them money but some do. I purchased the extra chargers I mentioned above from one such charity shop.
Originally Posted by pichlo
Out of curiosity, how do you know this if the device was never sold with a charger included?
Correct in theory. In practice, as we saw with the Jolla tablet, the price is set and excluding components is a cost saving exercise.
Shouldn't your complaint then be that companies should price correctly? If people's expectation was that phones didn't come with loads of rubbish they'll probably throw away (and make no mistake about it, many of them do), in the end the prices would be forced to adjust.
If you had an option of getting a decent charger for £5 or so at the same time as buying the phone, what exactly would the problem be? Less waste, and less cost for people with the sense not to destroy / lose their chargers...
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Here is an estimate that there are 100 million unused chargers floating around in the UK: http://www.o2.co.uk/thinkbig/planet/...out-of-the-box
Here an estimate that 70% of those buying a phone already have a compatible charger: http://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ethic...vironment.aspx
Last edited by MikeHG; 2016-07-29 at 16:24.
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2016-07-29
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@ Stockholm
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patience and coffee..
I bought mine three days ago, today I received the confirmation of payment from Paysapay..
same here, I'll keep everyone interested posted
I bought mine three days ago, today I received the confirmation of payment from Paysapay..
same here, I'll keep everyone interested posted
Originally Posted by requiem_76
I've bought aqua Fish this morning (Cagliari local time,of course).
Paid through Paisapay system (my paypal mastercard plus a picture of my ID with the card attached ).
And now.....I'm waiting for some (good, I hope) news.
I'll keep You posted......
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2016-07-30
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#158
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Originally Posted by pichlo
This is true, but it is also still true that identical chargers are included with every single device. Even if you only have one tablet and one mobile phone in the whole household, you still have at least one charger you won't use, because the odds that you'll have to charge both the tablet and the phone at the same time are not particularly high. Why even use the charger when you can just plug the USB cable into your computer and charge the device that way? It's slower, but the device is right next to you, and you're usually at the computer for a long enough time to sufficiently (if not fully) charge the phone/tablet.
In other words, the problem is not that the charger was included with every device you boy.
The problem is that
a) you buy devices too frequently;
b) when you get a new one, you get rid of the old one in such a way that you keep the charger.
Mosen is right, people's habits need to change.
An additional problem is that you don't need more chargers because they break too often, but that you need a good charger which won't break anytime soon. Good chargers won't be included even with the most expensive devices (just look at the junk Apple's devices come with, which is generally already broken in the first week), and why would you want to contribute to the pile of technological waste by buying cheapo chargers (as part of the device package) rather than just buying one or two good ones which will last a very long time?
It's the same thing with tin can earphones or any other rubbish manufacturers put in the boxes of their products, they're of such low quality (both in material and in the sound they produce) that no one in their right mind would use them. Better to buy a decent pair of earphones separately which will last much longer and sound like heaven compared to the ear-piercing shrills of the earphones packed in the box of your phone.
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2016-07-30
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congrats me . my fish arrived 10 minutes ago. will use it all night .
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research complete.
sorry for my bad english
research complete.
sorry for my bad english
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2016-07-30
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#160
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u cant use this phone with one hand.
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research complete.
sorry for my bad english
research complete.
sorry for my bad english
Paid through Paisapay system (my paypal mastercard plus a picture of my ID with the card attached ).
And now.....I'm waiting for some (good, I hope) news.
I'll keep You posted......