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2010-03-24
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I believe that a conduit by nature is bi-directional and because of that it is also the Councils duty to provide Nokia with accurate and relevant information generated by the community. Doing so I believe, does represent the communities best interest to Nokia ?
The stricter interpretation of this is that the conduit is uni-directional and Nokia-generated information only flows downward from them to us.
That could be debated for years and if that is the case I would prefer that this loose interpretation be known as "YoDudien" and those who subscribe to it, "YoDudiens". [...] the "GeneralAntilien" interpretation. "Antilliens" for short would be nice to describe followers of this principle but then they might be confused with just some guy from Sint Maarten...
For everyone else, please follow the example our good friend qole has shown. The best thing you can do for our community right now is to vote.
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2010-03-24
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2010-03-24
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2010-03-24
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2010-03-24
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Sorry for bringing this back.
If we direct the user to fMMS, aren't we doing, how to put it, a little wrong thing in the long run?
Let me try to explain.
User puts fMMS and he's happy, and everything is ok, but in the end at Nokia support they look at the complaints and conclude: "Look we were right, no one needs MMS function, because no one complained that it's missing, so the next device doesn't need it too."
Don't know how corporate world works, so I'm maybe wrong in this, but I think customer support at a company gives invaluable information of what the customers need/want and what should the corporation improve.
Maybe we could tell the user: "Here's the solution and please write to Nokia support that you had this problem and that helpful people at maemo.org has helped, but you would like if this basic function was working without any additional work from a paying customer."
This way the user would be happy, because it works, but Nokia support would also get valuable feedback.
A lot has been said about what step the N900 represents in Nokia's vision of what a mobile computer with cell phone connectivity is in the market. Whatever step it is, the consensus seems to have been that the N900 or its firmware/OS version is not the final step.
With that^ said I believe anyone who is happy with what the iPhone gives them, and accepts the iPhones single task limitations, will be disappointed with the N900 if they switch to it from the iPhone.
Out of the box the N900 will have less software available, more bug related software updates, and a much steeper learning curve...
However.... 3 months later, the N900 owner will be happier with his purchase and their satisfaction will continue to grow as they realize that:
-More and more free applications have become available for the N900 and that they had a say in the development of some of those applications or can configure them more to their specific needs then ones available for sale on the iPhone.
-Each firmware update that they did receive over the air for their N900 actually improved its functionality and didn't cripple its connectivity even further.
-The learning process for the N900 was not painful at all and that they now feel a part of a vibrant, growing community that shares their enthusiasm for the device and its OS and is less concerned with how much time or money they spend in the App Store.
The above^ also applies to anyone who is considering purchasing an N900 because they think it is the best cell phone in Nokia's line-up.
It may offer more features than any other phone but it is a mobile computer with support for HSPDA and HSUPA DATA connections that also happens to be a GSM cell phone.
Comparing the N900 to devices that are cell phones first and that also happen to run applications and can browse the Internet would not be fair to either device.
...again, imho.
Yeesh, talk about grossly misrepressenting my position. I'll remind you that I was one of the original people pushing the council idea as a way to better repressent the unfocused voice of the community to Nokia.
You're implication that I see the council as some sort of Nokia mouthpiece is both unsettling in it's revelation of ignorance and, honestly, marginally offensive.
How on earth do you get that strict interpretation, which you then go on to asssign to GeneralAntilles? He's one of the longest standing enthusiasts and, without being a programmer, shows you don't need to write software to contribute to this community. He's also one of the loudest voices of the community and is very well heard by Nokia AFAICT.
I've never seen anything as clumsy in trying to position your fellow nominee as having a position which he doesn't have, whilst trying really hard to not actually say that he - specifically - has that interpretation.
Apart from the general platitudes - about "everyone should be nice" (duh) and "forums can be powerful" (duh) and "the community shouldn't act like a Nokia mouthpiece" (duh), none of which people would disagree with - this is the most sensible thing you say here.
I think you owe Ryan an apology for so grossly misrepresenting his opinion as the core tenet of your piece.
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2010-03-24
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Look, the SDK for PR 1.2 has been out for some time. Some helpful members have referenced it in threads in order to answer users questions. However, in order to get a fuller understanding of it's implications and to see actual pictures and screen shots members must go outside this forum to independent blogs and what not. Why is that?
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2010-03-24
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If these bloggers are members of our community why aren't they encouraged to post replications in new threads here?
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2010-03-24
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You're implication that I see the council as some sort of Nokia mouthpiece is both unsettling in it's revelation of ignorance and, honestly, marginally offensive.
Ryan Abel
Last edited by GeneralAntilles; 2010-03-24 at 07:47.